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March 20th 2003, 14:13 CET by Matt Davis

According to various news sources, war has already started with special forces fighting in the southern part of iraq.
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#1451 by jjohnsen
2003-04-04 22:26:13
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Yeah no booze, although I think I got some kind of bug that some heavy duty booze might be able to help.  And is more women really a good reason to join a religion?  I'm thinking about having more than one wife and it gives me the chills (of course that could be the same bug thing).

Lest we forget we need a name for the main character.  Something edgy, like Killden Allded, Maxamillian (Max) Power, or our all time favorite Dick Justice.

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#1452 by jjohnsen
2003-04-04 22:28:23
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I did win $2 in the nickel slots at Luxor though.  So that More than makes up for having to fly in at 7:30, wander some crap trade-show, get sick, and finally leave at 11:30.  I really hate Vegas.

Lest we forget we need a name for the main character.  Something edgy, like Killden Allded, Maxamillian (Max) Power, or our all time favorite Dick Justice.

Funk.
#1453 by Dethstryk
2003-04-04 22:34:26
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One wife is scary enough..

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#1454 by The_Joker
2003-04-04 23:06:20
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Oh my god, you have to see this! SPORTS IN IRAQ!!!!!

I laughed so hard I almost choked.

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#1455 by Greg
2003-04-04 23:12:28
You should probably make a topic about it.

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#1456 by Ergo
2003-04-04 23:16:43
Or better yet, post it in every thread!!

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#1457 by Your Friend
2003-04-04 23:18:29
Better do both, just to make sure.

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#1458 by The_Joker
2003-04-04 23:49:27
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Fuck you all!

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#1459 by Xero
2003-04-04 23:51:58
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#1460 by Gunp01nt
2003-04-05 00:00:48
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jjohnsen:
All this for 12 guys?  It's nice to know the Canadian government wastes as much time as the U.S.


heck, there was a big riot over here in the Netherlands because ONE Dutch signal officer (is that the right word for 'verbindingsofficier'? my dictionary is sketchy about that...) showed his face on a US Army press conference.

I guess people prefer to start yelling before trying to figure out what the hell a signal officer is and does.

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#1461 by Ergo
2003-04-05 00:05:42
British troops suffer first major defeat in Iraq

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#1462 by deadlock
2003-04-05 00:12:35
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bloo:
You said you were reading a good book on the first world war.  Was it Forgotten Voices?

No, it was The Trench by Richard Van Emden. If you read the blurb, you'll notice that it was written to accompany a BBC program where they took twenty-odd men from modern day Hull and "transplanted" them into The Great War by digging a trench in a field on the Somme and having them live there for three weeks, going through the daily grind that soldiers of the day would have had to go through (minus the obvious sudden death factor). It's actually a lot better than it sounds, not least because the author managed to get plenty of interviews with veterans that are (or perhaps were at the time of writing - November 2001) still alive. I'd say 90% of each chapter is historical discussion, illustrated with anecdotes from the veterans and the remaining 10% describes what the modern day volunteers experienced.

The project actually turned out to be fairly instructive with regard to what it was like for British privates in that scenario (again with the obvious caveat that the modern-day volunteers who 'died' were around for the wrap party). For example, one of the "soldiers'" grand-father and great-grand-father fought in the trenches and he'd always wondered why their letters home were so bland, considering the mayhem that was going on about them. Then, when he himself was writing letters home to his wife and family, he found himself doing the except same thing: self-censoring out the misery and boredom of living in a hole for three weeks solid.

The real anecdotes were amazing though; I'd always known that trench warfare was miserable, but I'd never realised just how bad it was. Is 'Forgotten Voices' any good, because I'd definitely be into reading more about this?

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#1463 by mrbloo
2003-04-05 02:03:50
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Aye, I've read The Trench.  Good book, and I liked how it concentrated more on the historical stuff rather than the reality TV aspect.  I wouldn't have minded seeing some of the series all the same.  I saw only part of one episode when they were doing the Lewis gun training.  Poor Bloody Infantry (out of print, but the Rathmines library has it), is a good account of a Lewis gunner during they war - the author is very bitter about things - understandably enough.    

Regeneration (Laser on George's Street have it on DVD) is a good movie dealing with shellshock and Siegfried Sassoon's brief stay in Craiglockhart as he protested the war.  Wilfred Owen's poem at the end is powerful stuff.  One I'd never heard before but much more moving than Dulce et decorum est.  

Martin Gilbert's history of the war The First World War is a very good overview of the war, dealing well with both the broad strokes and the human interest angles.  There's some amazing stories in it and he follows figures that later became famous outside of the war (like Wittgenstein, Patton, deGaul and wee Cpl. Hitler).  

Forgotten Voices is oral accounts recorded by the IWM in the 70s (so at least there's the happy thought that everybody talking survived).  It's not dry and it's very grim and horrific in places.  Easily the best (and most readable) book I've seen about the Great War.  It gave the guy I borrowed it off nightmares :)  Everyone who reads it has a stand-out story that hits them hard.  The one I'll never forget:

1915,  Trooper Walter Beckdale, 5th Cavalry Brigade:  I was wounded in the battle and taken to a casualty clearing station.  I was beside a fellow who had got his arms bandaged up - I'd simply got my right arm bandaged.  He was trying to light his pipe but couldn't get on very well so I offered to fill and light it for him.  But when I'd lit it I suddenly realised he had nowhere to put it, as he'd had his lower jaw blown away.  So I smoked the pipe and he smelt the tobacco, that was all the poor chap could have.
#1464 by MCorleone
2003-04-05 04:44:16
I don't think anyone who knows anything about WW1 thinks that trench warfare was anything other than hell on Earth.

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#1465 by Matt Davis
2003-04-05 10:23:35
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Eric,

The UK SAS has a majority minority of UK Citizens, but contains a lot of Aussies and Canadians, not from exchanges but they joined by going through the army as all members of the commonwealth are able to join the UK army after security checks.

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#1466 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-04-05 11:20:28
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Okay, thanks for clearing that up, Matt.

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#1467 by Post-It
2003-04-12 05:12:10
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#1468 by Squeaky
2003-04-12 08:55:45
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#1469 by Eric T. Cheng
2003-04-13 23:28:59
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Fuck you all!

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